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	<title>Comments on: The Aga Khan III&#8217;s Letter to &#8220;Times of London&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Nina Jaffer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nina Jaffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Nash and Noor, for refreshing our eyes and hearts with the wonderful work done by our Imams. Indeed, their aim is to dialog &quot;guftagu&quot; and to include everyone equally. This was done by our beloved Prophet Muhammad when he taught the principles of ethics in Islam that God sees all creation equally and that is why the other religions of peoples under the Muslim rule survived. This was a strength, not a weakness.

 By education, by dialog, by the pen, as Allah says, we can show them the way. 

Please visit http://www.amaana.org/ismanew.html for more speeches and Milad info.

Mubarak!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Nash and Noor, for refreshing our eyes and hearts with the wonderful work done by our Imams. Indeed, their aim is to dialog &#8220;guftagu&#8221; and to include everyone equally. This was done by our beloved Prophet Muhammad when he taught the principles of ethics in Islam that God sees all creation equally and that is why the other religions of peoples under the Muslim rule survived. This was a strength, not a weakness.</p>
<p> By education, by dialog, by the pen, as Allah says, we can show them the way. </p>
<p>Please visit <a href="http://www.amaana.org/ismanew.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.amaana.org/ismanew.html</a> for more speeches and Milad info.</p>
<p>Mubarak!</p>
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		<title>By: Easy Nash</title>
		<link>http://pamirtimes.net/2008/02/29/the-third-aga-khans-letter-to-times-of-london/#comment-506</link>
		<dc:creator>Easy Nash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if it is appropriate to post this here but Ismaili Mail published a beautiful gallery of pictures of the Hunza Valley and I made a comment on it consisting of some amazing quotes and excerpts from Aga Khan IV, Aga Khan III, Nasir Khusraw and Prophet Muhammad:

http://ismailimail.wordpress.com/2008/02/29/terraced-fields-of-hunza-valley/

By the way I am going to put a link to your blog on the &#039;Suggested Links&#039; section of my blog.

NashVelshi aka Easy Nash</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if it is appropriate to post this here but Ismaili Mail published a beautiful gallery of pictures of the Hunza Valley and I made a comment on it consisting of some amazing quotes and excerpts from Aga Khan IV, Aga Khan III, Nasir Khusraw and Prophet Muhammad:</p>
<p><a href="http://ismailimail.wordpress.com/2008/02/29/terraced-fields-of-hunza-valley/" rel="nofollow">http://ismailimail.wordpress.com/2008/02/29/terraced-fields-of-hunza-valley/</a></p>
<p>By the way I am going to put a link to your blog on the &#8216;Suggested Links&#8217; section of my blog.</p>
<p>NashVelshi aka Easy Nash</p>
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		<title>By: Baig Ali</title>
		<link>http://pamirtimes.net/2008/02/29/the-third-aga-khans-letter-to-times-of-london/#comment-505</link>
		<dc:creator>Baig Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DEAR ALL,
SOME OF THE VERY GOOD QUOTE R SEEN, THANKS TO ALL AND SPECIALLY NOOR AND NASH-------</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DEAR ALL,<br />
SOME OF THE VERY GOOD QUOTE R SEEN, THANKS TO ALL AND SPECIALLY NOOR AND NASH&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
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		<title>By: Easy Nash</title>
		<link>http://pamirtimes.net/2008/02/29/the-third-aga-khans-letter-to-times-of-london/#comment-504</link>
		<dc:creator>Easy Nash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While we are on the timely topic of Mawlana Sultan Mohamed Shah, His Highness Aga Khan III, here are a few of his timeless sayings on the subjects of creation, science and religion, which are part of one megapost from my blog:

1) Quote from a letter written by Our 48th Imam to a friend in 1952 under the title: “What have we forgotten in Islam?”:Islam is fundamentally in its very nature a natural religion. Throughout the Quran God’s signs (Ayats) are referred to as the natural phenomenon, the law and order of the universe, the exactitudes and consequences of the relations between natural phenomenon in cause and effect. Over and over, the stars, sun, moon, earthquakes, fruits of the earth and trees are mentioned as the signs of divine power, divine law and divine order. Even in the Ayeh of Noor, divine is referred to as the natural phenomenon of light and even references are made to the fruit of the earth. During the great period of Islam, Muslims did not forget these principles of their religion. Alas, Islam which is a natural religion in which God’s miracles are the very law and order of nature drifted away and still drifting away, even in Pakistan, from science which is the study of those very laws and orders of nature.……Islam is a natural religion of which the Ayats are the universe in which we live and move and have our being………..The God of the Quran is the one whose Ayats are the universe……(Aga Khan III, April 4th 1952, Karachi, Pakistan)

2) About Hafiz, the renowned Iranian poet:“Then came Hafiz - by far the greatest singer of the soul of man. In him we can find all the strivings, all the sorrow, all the victories and joys, all the hopes and disappointments of each and every one of us. In him we find contact, direct and immediate, with the outer universe interpreted as an infinite reality of matter, as a mirror of an eternal spirit, or indeed (as Spinoza later said) an absolute existence of which matter and spirit alike are but two of infinite modes and facets.”(Inaugural Lecture Before the Iran Society by Sir Sultan Muhammad Shah Aga Khan, November 9, 1936 London, United Kingdom.)

3) There is a fundamental difference between the Jewish idea of creation and that of Islam. The creation according to Islam is not a unique act in a given time but a perpetual and constant event; and God supports and sustains all existence at every moment by His will and His thought. Outside His will, outside His thought, all is nothing, even the things which seem to us absolutely self-evident such as space and time. Allah alone wishes: the Universe exists; and all manifestations are as a witness of the Divine will (Memoirs of Aga Khan III, 1954).

4) Islamic doctrine goes further than the other great religions, for it proclaims the presence of the soul, perhaps minute but nevertheless existing in an embryonic state, in all existence in matter, in animals, trees, and space itself. Every individual, every molecule, every atom has its own spiritual relationship with the All-Powerful Soul of God. (Memoirs of Aga Khan III, 1954).

5) Thus there was an absolute need for the Divine Word’s revelation, to Mohammed himself, a man like the others, of God’s person and of his relations to the Universe which he had created. Once man has thus comprehended the essence of existence, there remains for him the duty, since he knows the absolute value of his own soul, of making for himself a direct path which will constantly lead his individual soul to and bind it with the universal Soul of which the Universe is, as much of it as we perceive with our limited visions, one of the infinite manifestations. Thus Islam’s basic principle can only be defined as mono-realism and not as monotheism. Consider, for example, the opening declaration of every Islamic prayer: “Allah-o-Akbar”. What does that mean? There can be no doubt that the second word of the declaration likens the character of Allah to a matrix which contains all and gives existence to the infinite, to space, to time, to the Universe, to all active and passive forces imaginable, to life and to the soul. Imam Hassan has explained the Islamic doctrine of God and the Universe by analogy with the sun and its reflection in the pool of a fountain; there is certainly a reflection or image of the sun, but with what poverty and with what little reality; how small and pale is the likeness between this impalpable image and the immense, blazing, white-hot glory of the celestial sphere itself. Allah is the sun; and the Universe, as we know it in all its magnitude, and time, with its power, are nothing more than the reflection of the Absolute in the mirror of the fountain (memoirs of Aga Khan III, 1954).

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http://gonashgo.blogspot.com/2008/02/327comprehensive-quotes-of-aga-khan-iv.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While we are on the timely topic of Mawlana Sultan Mohamed Shah, His Highness Aga Khan III, here are a few of his timeless sayings on the subjects of creation, science and religion, which are part of one megapost from my blog:</p>
<p>1) Quote from a letter written by Our 48th Imam to a friend in 1952 under the title: “What have we forgotten in Islam?”:Islam is fundamentally in its very nature a natural religion. Throughout the Quran God’s signs (Ayats) are referred to as the natural phenomenon, the law and order of the universe, the exactitudes and consequences of the relations between natural phenomenon in cause and effect. Over and over, the stars, sun, moon, earthquakes, fruits of the earth and trees are mentioned as the signs of divine power, divine law and divine order. Even in the Ayeh of Noor, divine is referred to as the natural phenomenon of light and even references are made to the fruit of the earth. During the great period of Islam, Muslims did not forget these principles of their religion. Alas, Islam which is a natural religion in which God’s miracles are the very law and order of nature drifted away and still drifting away, even in Pakistan, from science which is the study of those very laws and orders of nature.……Islam is a natural religion of which the Ayats are the universe in which we live and move and have our being………..The God of the Quran is the one whose Ayats are the universe……(Aga Khan III, April 4th 1952, Karachi, Pakistan)</p>
<p>2) About Hafiz, the renowned Iranian poet:“Then came Hafiz &#8211; by far the greatest singer of the soul of man. In him we can find all the strivings, all the sorrow, all the victories and joys, all the hopes and disappointments of each and every one of us. In him we find contact, direct and immediate, with the outer universe interpreted as an infinite reality of matter, as a mirror of an eternal spirit, or indeed (as Spinoza later said) an absolute existence of which matter and spirit alike are but two of infinite modes and facets.”(Inaugural Lecture Before the Iran Society by Sir Sultan Muhammad Shah Aga Khan, November 9, 1936 London, United Kingdom.)</p>
<p>3) There is a fundamental difference between the Jewish idea of creation and that of Islam. The creation according to Islam is not a unique act in a given time but a perpetual and constant event; and God supports and sustains all existence at every moment by His will and His thought. Outside His will, outside His thought, all is nothing, even the things which seem to us absolutely self-evident such as space and time. Allah alone wishes: the Universe exists; and all manifestations are as a witness of the Divine will (Memoirs of Aga Khan III, 1954).</p>
<p>4) Islamic doctrine goes further than the other great religions, for it proclaims the presence of the soul, perhaps minute but nevertheless existing in an embryonic state, in all existence in matter, in animals, trees, and space itself. Every individual, every molecule, every atom has its own spiritual relationship with the All-Powerful Soul of God. (Memoirs of Aga Khan III, 1954).</p>
<p>5) Thus there was an absolute need for the Divine Word’s revelation, to Mohammed himself, a man like the others, of God’s person and of his relations to the Universe which he had created. Once man has thus comprehended the essence of existence, there remains for him the duty, since he knows the absolute value of his own soul, of making for himself a direct path which will constantly lead his individual soul to and bind it with the universal Soul of which the Universe is, as much of it as we perceive with our limited visions, one of the infinite manifestations. Thus Islam’s basic principle can only be defined as mono-realism and not as monotheism. Consider, for example, the opening declaration of every Islamic prayer: “Allah-o-Akbar”. What does that mean? There can be no doubt that the second word of the declaration likens the character of Allah to a matrix which contains all and gives existence to the infinite, to space, to time, to the Universe, to all active and passive forces imaginable, to life and to the soul. Imam Hassan has explained the Islamic doctrine of God and the Universe by analogy with the sun and its reflection in the pool of a fountain; there is certainly a reflection or image of the sun, but with what poverty and with what little reality; how small and pale is the likeness between this impalpable image and the immense, blazing, white-hot glory of the celestial sphere itself. Allah is the sun; and the Universe, as we know it in all its magnitude, and time, with its power, are nothing more than the reflection of the Absolute in the mirror of the fountain (memoirs of Aga Khan III, 1954).</p>
<p>Source:<br />
<a href="http://gonashgo.blogspot.com/2008/02/327comprehensive-quotes-of-aga-khan-iv.html" rel="nofollow">http://gonashgo.blogspot.com/2008/02/327comprehensive-quotes-of-aga-khan-iv.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Zulfiqar Ali Khan</title>
		<link>http://pamirtimes.net/2008/02/29/the-third-aga-khans-letter-to-times-of-london/#comment-503</link>
		<dc:creator>Zulfiqar Ali Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 11:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The speech of Moulana Hazir Imam in Tutzing, Germany clarifies the civilizational ignorance and clashes.

&quot;&quot;.......................But it is striking to me how many modern thinkers are still disposed to link tolerance with secularism -- and religion with intolerance. In their eyes -- and often in the public eye I fear -- religion is seen as part of the problem and not part of the solution.

There are reasons why this impression exists. Throughout history we find terrible chapters in which religious conflict brought frightening results. When people speak these days, about an inevitable &quot;Clash of Civilizations&quot; in our world, what they often mean, I fear, is an inevitable &quot;Clash of Religions.&quot; But I would use different terminology altogether. The essential problem, as I see it, in relations between the Muslim world and the West is &quot;A Clash of Ignorance.&quot; And what I would prescribe -- as an essential first step on both sides of that divide-- is a concentrated educational effort.

Instead of shouting at one another, we must listen to one another -- and learn from one another. As we do, one of our first lessons might well center on those powerful but often neglected chapters in history when Islamic and European cultures interacted cooperatively to help realize some of civilization&#039;s peak achievements...............&quot;&quot;
click for full speech http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/muslims_speak_out/2007/07/tolerance_a_religious_imperati.

World-renowned scholar and best-selling author Ms. Karen Armstrong  also rejects the Clash of Civilisation theory while delivering lectures on ‘Tolerance in Islam’ and ‘Clash of Civilisations: Myths or Reality’ at the Jinnah Convention Centre.

Click below for her speech: http://ismailimail.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/press.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The speech of Moulana Hazir Imam in Tutzing, Germany clarifies the civilizational ignorance and clashes.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..But it is striking to me how many modern thinkers are still disposed to link tolerance with secularism &#8212; and religion with intolerance. In their eyes &#8212; and often in the public eye I fear &#8212; religion is seen as part of the problem and not part of the solution.</p>
<p>There are reasons why this impression exists. Throughout history we find terrible chapters in which religious conflict brought frightening results. When people speak these days, about an inevitable &#8220;Clash of Civilizations&#8221; in our world, what they often mean, I fear, is an inevitable &#8220;Clash of Religions.&#8221; But I would use different terminology altogether. The essential problem, as I see it, in relations between the Muslim world and the West is &#8220;A Clash of Ignorance.&#8221; And what I would prescribe &#8212; as an essential first step on both sides of that divide&#8211; is a concentrated educational effort.</p>
<p>Instead of shouting at one another, we must listen to one another &#8212; and learn from one another. As we do, one of our first lessons might well center on those powerful but often neglected chapters in history when Islamic and European cultures interacted cooperatively to help realize some of civilization&#8217;s peak achievements&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8221;"<br />
click for full speech <a href="http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/muslims_speak_out/2007/07/tolerance_a_religious_imperati" rel="nofollow">http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/muslims_speak_out/2007/07/tolerance_a_religious_imperati</a>.</p>
<p>World-renowned scholar and best-selling author Ms. Karen Armstrong  also rejects the Clash of Civilisation theory while delivering lectures on ‘Tolerance in Islam’ and ‘Clash of Civilisations: Myths or Reality’ at the Jinnah Convention Centre.</p>
<p>Click below for her speech: <a href="http://ismailimail.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/press.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://ismailimail.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/press.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Aslam Khan Ghalib</title>
		<link>http://pamirtimes.net/2008/02/29/the-third-aga-khans-letter-to-times-of-london/#comment-502</link>
		<dc:creator>Aslam Khan Ghalib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 11:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Noor,
                  The word ignorance in my view encompasses many areas as disregarding the values,denying the facts behind the history and  putting aside the  general manifestation of the history,a more tilt towards materialization and globalization.What all this shows is the ones who are more developed and have more material achievements do not very much bother about what the values are and how vauable the self esteem of others is.
This kind of approach leads to ignorance and the ignorant definately turns out to be an agitator but having no proper aeration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Noor,<br />
                  The word ignorance in my view encompasses many areas as disregarding the values,denying the facts behind the history and  putting aside the  general manifestation of the history,a more tilt towards materialization and globalization.What all this shows is the ones who are more developed and have more material achievements do not very much bother about what the values are and how vauable the self esteem of others is.<br />
This kind of approach leads to ignorance and the ignorant definately turns out to be an agitator but having no proper aeration.</p>
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		<title>By: pamirtimes</title>
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		<dc:creator>pamirtimes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 14:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Ghalib, nice sentiments, observations and suggestions. 

Nevertheless, I think His Highness has not said that &quot;clash of civilization is because of ignorance&quot;. In my understanding he negates the concept of &quot;Clash of Civilizations&quot; as conceived by Sameul P. Huntington. 

MHI terms this clash to be the result of our ignorance about history, values and achievements of other civilizations.

 Our civilizations don&#039;t make us fight. Our ignorance does.

Regards
Noor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Ghalib, nice sentiments, observations and suggestions. </p>
<p>Nevertheless, I think His Highness has not said that &#8220;clash of civilization is because of ignorance&#8221;. In my understanding he negates the concept of &#8220;Clash of Civilizations&#8221; as conceived by Sameul P. Huntington. </p>
<p>MHI terms this clash to be the result of our ignorance about history, values and achievements of other civilizations.</p>
<p> Our civilizations don&#8217;t make us fight. Our ignorance does.</p>
<p>Regards<br />
Noor</p>
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		<title>By: Aslam Ghalib</title>
		<link>http://pamirtimes.net/2008/02/29/the-third-aga-khans-letter-to-times-of-london/#comment-500</link>
		<dc:creator>Aslam Ghalib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 12:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The misconceptions about Islam have  increased many folds in west and everything interpreted is on the contrary to what the real essense od Islam is.The contents of this letter by His Highness Aga Khan is the true representation of Islam and the need is to once again share these things with the west and let them know about what the reality is.
Even His Highness Prince Karim Aga Khan has also clearly mentioned that the clash of civilizations  is because of ignorance.
I would like to thank Engr Baig Ali Sahab for his contribution of such a precious letter that would really put a great impact if shared with the west.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The misconceptions about Islam have  increased many folds in west and everything interpreted is on the contrary to what the real essense od Islam is.The contents of this letter by His Highness Aga Khan is the true representation of Islam and the need is to once again share these things with the west and let them know about what the reality is.<br />
Even His Highness Prince Karim Aga Khan has also clearly mentioned that the clash of civilizations  is because of ignorance.<br />
I would like to thank Engr Baig Ali Sahab for his contribution of such a precious letter that would really put a great impact if shared with the west.</p>
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		<title>By: Easy Nash</title>
		<link>http://pamirtimes.net/2008/02/29/the-third-aga-khans-letter-to-times-of-london/#comment-499</link>
		<dc:creator>Easy Nash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 11:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The contents of this letter by His Highness Aga Khan III are as valid today as they were  back then in what continues to be a &quot;clash of ignorance&quot; rather than a &quot;clash of civilizations&quot; between Islam and the West.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The contents of this letter by His Highness Aga Khan III are as valid today as they were  back then in what continues to be a &#8220;clash of ignorance&#8221; rather than a &#8220;clash of civilizations&#8221; between Islam and the West.</p>
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		<title>By: Nina Jaffer</title>
		<link>http://pamirtimes.net/2008/02/29/the-third-aga-khans-letter-to-times-of-london/#comment-498</link>
		<dc:creator>Nina Jaffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for posting this important letter by Aga Khan III. It seems as if it could be used again today to clear up the misunderstanding of the Muslims by the West.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for posting this important letter by Aga Khan III. It seems as if it could be used again today to clear up the misunderstanding of the Muslims by the West.</p>
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